Wikiversity:Colloquium/archives/December 2020

A question from a new contributor (almost, in en.wikiversity) edit

Hello. On fr.wikiversity, when one looks at the tab ‘’history’’ on a page, a tab ‘’pagesviews’’ is available. I believe that it can be very useful for contributors whose one or severals articles look quite special and importants for them: a contributor can be very encouraged and motivated even more, to improve his/her article(s). What do you think? Thank you for your attention.
P-S: I just thought that there are many more English and American speakers, than French ones. Then, technically, a lot of energy (Wikimedia-"motors") would have to be used. Is this the reason ? Thanks, and good night, --EclairEnZ (discuss • contribs) 19:53, 5 December 2020 (UTC) ) Claude Mariotti[reply]

@EclairEnZ: Welcome! We also have a Page Views link available from the History page. What is displayed on the French version of pagesviews that you don't see with the Page Views we use? -- Dave Braunschweig (discuss • contribs) 22:54, 5 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Dave Braunschweig: Thanks, Dave. I was almost sure that it would be impossible, this must come from some settings on my computer... I'll think about this and ask the question on fr.w. Surely we'll find it eventually. I am very happy that it is possible! Have a nice day. --EclairEnZ (discuss • contribs) 06:48, 6 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, I was not precise enough, I meant: When I click on the tab "History", I only see the historic of the page, there is absolutely no other tab, link, available. I've just asked the question to administrators and will inform you about further events, of course. P.-S.: On en.wikipedia, everything is OK. --EclairEnZ (discuss • contribs) 08.58, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

@Dave Braunschweig: I got it ! Wouhaouhhh ! :-) (after one hour...) I thought it was a very difficult enigma [I don't like at all, I hate ! mysteries ;)], and as usual, it was so simple... In "other languages" (left column), then in "Display language", formerly, I had put "French". Then I've just put "English", and now, I can see the 4 links. Wonderful! Bye and thanks, Claude Mariotti/EclairEnZ (discuss • contribs) 10.15, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

2020 Coolest Tool Award Ceremony on December 11th edit

Hello all,

The ceremony of the 2020 Wikimedia Coolest Tool Award will take place virtually on Friday, December 11th, at 17:00 GMT. This award is highlighting tools that have been nominated by contributors to the Wikimedia projects, and the ceremony will be a nice moment to show appreciation to the tools developers and maybe discover new tools!

You will find more information here about the livestream and the discussions channels. Thanks for your attention, Lea Lacroix (WMDE) 10:55, 7 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Community Wishlist Survey 2021 edit

We invite all registered users to vote on the 2021 Community Wishlist Survey. You can vote from now until 21 December for as many different wishes as you want.

In the Survey, wishes for new and improved tools for experienced editors are collected. After the voting, we will do our best to grant your wishes. We will start with the most popular ones.

We, the Community Tech, are one of the Wikimedia Foundation teams. We create and improve editing and wiki moderation tools. What we work on is decided based on results of the Community Wishlist Survey. Once a year, you can submit wishes. After two weeks, you can vote on the ones that you're most interested in. Next, we choose wishes from the survey to work on. Some of the wishes may be granted by volunteer developers or other teams.

We are waiting for your votes. Thank you!

SGrabarczuk (WMF)

15:03, 11 December 2020 (UTC)

Augmented Reality Support within Wikiversity edit

According to some test with 3D Modelling and geo-location based augmented reality is seems to make a lot of sense to support 3D model e.g. with Aframe and/or AR.js in Wikiversity. Just like MATH for mathematical expressions a tag might be introduced with MODEL3D or AR that wraps the XML syntax for a 3D model. On other option would be include 3D models directly from WikiCommons. Wiki Commons store SVG vector graphics which is of cource XML syntax defining the graphics. Embedding of 3D models could be performed just like embedding images from Wiki Commons. 3D models in AR.js and Aframe are defined in a XML-Syntax wrapped with a A-SCENE-tag.

 <a-scene>
     <a-box position="-1 0.5 -3" rotation="0 45 0" color="#4CC3D9"></a-box>
 </a-scene>

Of course rendering of the 3D scene needs an import of Javascript library aframe.js or ar.js, which refers to an import mechanism on demand for the underlying MediaWiki, I guess. Anyway this approach would allow the us as author/teachers to enhance learning resources in many ways, e.g.:

Molecules or crystal lattices displayed on Markers,
ancient site reconstruction on a marker like Forum Romanum in Rome Italy,
attach Wikiversity learning resource to real geolocations,
explore places with 360 degree equirectangular images.
...

Test 3D Model in Aframe	Place 3D Model on Marker
Water Molecule in Aframe - created with JSON3D4Aframe	Water Molecule with Augmented Reality AR.js on Kanji Marker - created with JSON3D4Aframe

See also OpenSource AR.js documentation. I do not know if that makes sense to you and it worth the effort. No worries if not, it is possible to store the 3D models on a Git respository and link from the learning resources to it. Best regards and take care, Bert --Bert Niehaus (discuss • contribs) 10:38, 15 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Bert Niehaus: Have you discussed this idea at Commons:? It's much easier if we follow Wikipedia's lead for template design and Commons's lead for media display. You could also ask at Meta: or create a Phabricator: request for a technology perspective. -- Dave Braunschweig (discuss • contribs) 21:50, 15 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Dave Braunschweig: Thank you, Dave, according to XML-like structure of the AR syntax I would support your recommendation and place the request also at Commons, with a primary objective to use that in learning resources of Wikiversity, but it might be helpful for Wikipedia, Wikispecies, Wikivoyage, ... as well. --Bert Niehaus (discuss • contribs) 10:17, 16 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

For translators edit

Hello! I have just discovered DeepL, a free neural machine translation. According to the press (I think so too), it's the best online translation service. By using in a second step Linguee to refine, it seems to be the best way to translate a text, I recommend. Claude Mariotti (discuss • contribs) 22:26, 19 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]