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For consistently responding to my posts on the rainwater harvesting wiki project. I appreciate you for warmly welcoming me into the world of Wikiversity.

Sorry I don't understand how to correctly get this template to work :/ Thank you--Ivangiesen (discusscontribs) 18:09, 26 June 2020 (UTC)}}

@Ivangiesen: Thanks for the cookie! We didn't have that template. I've imported it. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 18:15, 26 June 2020 (UTC)

Wikiversity Templates and Translation EffortsEdit

Hi Dave, Wikiversity authors use templates for a constitent presentation of learning resources. One them is e.g. the Graph-Template to visualize data in a graph without creating and uploading a new image of graph to WikiCommons when data must be updated due to new scientific results.

The challenge is that such core templates are used for Mathematics, Computer Science, Natural Sciences, Social Sciences ... to visualized data in a graph are allow a language independent usage. But this graph templates are not avaiable on all language domains of Wikiversity. For this example I made a screenshot and imported the screenshot to WikiCommons and embedded the images into german wikiversity (maintenance of data with a structured graph template is gone). Is there a procedure to ask for multi language support of those templates or is there a specific benefit for having and maintaining those type of language independent templates in every language domain of Wikiversity seperately? This creates a great workload for translation efforts. The same is applicable for citation templates in the ref-tags. Graph templates use e.g. graphing libraries like MorrisJS on the backend to render the diagrams. Looking on the example above it makes a lot of sense to do that once for all languages and then add optionally a local language alias for that template to make that readible in the specific language. But maybe I am not aware of other constraints that block the implementation in such a way. Looking at it from the Computer Science angle it makes a lot of sense to provide a language independent template usage for some templates like the Graph Template. --Bert Niehaus (discusscontribs) 07:57, 29 June 2020 (UTC)

@Bert Niehaus: The problem is bigger than just Wikiversity. There is currently no support for centralized templates anywhere within Wikimedia. This has been proposed for many years, but so far, I am not aware of any progress. See, for example phabricator:T6547. Having a single source, and having that single source support multiple languages would certainly be preferred. Please feel free to reach out to people on Phabricator and see if you can help make this possible. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 14:47, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
@Dave Braunschweig: got transwiki import permissions for German Wiki, so I imported Graph:Chart and Graph:Map templates. It is not an ideal solution to maintain the same template in multiple Wikis, but it is better than using a template in the english Wikiversity and screenshots in the German Wikiversity. If centralized templates become reality, then we can map the language specific templates to the centralized repository with minimal efforts. Relacing images by a graph template would be nightmare with a lot of manual work. So at least we are one step forward in having the Graph:Chart template at least available in the German Wikiversity with a consitent call of parameters. Thank you Dave for clarification. Take care, Bert --Bert Niehaus (discusscontribs) 14:56, 6 July 2020 (UTC)