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Arabic Wikiversity?

--Email4mobile 21:43, 4 June 2009 (UTC) Hi, all. I signed by accident into this site and was surprised not to see the Arabic main page or translation within Wikiversity. I was eager to start contributing in this site or translating some articles into Arabic but don't know how to do it. I'd appreciate your help. I usually translate English articles in Wikipedia into Arabic, update or create new Arabic articles.[reply]

Have you browsed these pages: [1]? I would say, you can also translate technical pages of this: [2]. Wikiversity is something different, so I would recomend not to translate its content.--Juan de Vojníkov 04:41, 10 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Later on I could get a beta version for Arabic but I still face the problem in which I can append the English language link (e.g. [[en:abcd]]) but can't make the reverse (or [[ar:wxyz]]) can any one please help me? --Email4mobile 05:40, 5 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You can cast your vote on the page meta:Requests for new languages/Wikiversity Arabic. You might want to read betawikiversity:Wikiversity:Babel/archive/20080108#Interwiki shortcuts for Beta for your problem of linking to the Arabic beta version. The links made this way may have to be changed later on when pages are moved to the final Wikiversity Arabic. --fasten 11:06, 5 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

That is not how a new Wikiversity language is created. Unlike other projects, Beta Wikiversity is responsible for new languages being created. You should begin creating Arabic resources on Beta Wikiversity and in time Arabic Wikiversity will be created. -- dark lama 12:07, 5 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

project on information technology and its effect on student learning.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Dinho hakim (talk • contribs)

"Wikiversity Beta is also a place where Wikiversity projects which don't have a subdomain yet can develop." betawikiversity:Help:FAQ/En. To me that sounds as if it implies that you can develop resources that should be moved to the final project. The use may be uncommon but it is a possible use. Translations from other wikiversities may not be the most important projects to begin in beta state, though. --fasten 10:44, 7 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Well yes, once a project has been created for the language, the developed resources are moved from Beta to the new Wikiversity, but until then that is the place to develop them and activity there determines when and if a new language Wikiversity is ready to be created. Its not an uncommon use of Beta Wikiversity. Translations are also welcome and within the scope of Beta Wikiversity. -- dark lama 12:10, 7 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Template:free screenshot

Template:Software-screenshot links to Template:free screenshot. Is there a different option besides "Template:free screenshot"? --JWSchmidt 18:15, 10 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Theory ?

I prefer to ask first; I might have missed a policy. Do you mean that MY theory about infinite numbers is a good candidate for a page here at the Wikiversity ? I'm not totally sure anybody else didn't state it, but I didn't heard about it. I want to reassure you, it's not something completly funky about poly-dimentionnal wormhole ;) . It's quite straight forward in fact but I've not seen anybody postulate about it. Iluvalar 04:09, 21 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It seems like a decent candidate to me. Wikademia

How should I start then ? PS: I hanged on wp-fr for a long time (3000 edits). I know the basics.. I just want to know : Is there a specific namespace ? Any naming convention ? Where could I link my new page ? Those things... Iluvalar 15:14, 21 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know what your theory is called, but you could just create a page which describes it, like writing a paper. The page name might sort of then be like picking the name of a paper, and then right the page as if you might be writing a paper. Wikiversity:Naming conventions Wikademia

Here is the first draft. thanks. Defined infinity theory. Thinking about

\infty +3

for so much time pushed me at the edge of pure madness. I think I've survived with a big load of humour. I hope the final result is not so bad and the idea can be understood. ... I'm taking a break. Iluvalar 01:10, 22 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Your theory sounds like "Original Research", so you should read, understand and agree to Wikiversity's OR policy. I looked over your page briefly -- what I would suggest is that you tap some math gurus to provide feedback and peer review and to try and punch holes in your Theory. Historybuff 15:31, 28 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I know my idea is a bit messy right now. I'm a bit rusty in integral and differential equation, but I would be glad to take a look to common calculus involving infinite values. And demonstrate how by thinking of an infinity as being defined, much more like others variables, we can end up with good answers. Often much more quickly then using conventional method. I don't have much spare time right now, to find those commons exemples which use those method. I quickly read WV:OR is there any template to warn that this theory is an original research ? Iluvalar 00:02, 29 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think there is any template. If you think its important to let people know that your writing original research you can make such a template, otherwise don't worry about it. -- dark lama 22:23, 29 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I don't worry, but on another hand this might be used to determine W:critical mass in nuclear plant. Just in case, I put a warning. Iluvalar 19:24, 30 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Watchlist bug

When I change any of the following to "Hide" status, they won't change back:

"Hide minor edits | Hide bots | Hide anonymous users | Hide logged-in users | Hide my edits"

The workaround I've found is to edit the address bar to change the word "hide" to "show". Here's an example for "Show my edits":

"http://en.wikiversity.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Watchlist&showOwn=1&days=0"

How can we fix this ? StuRat 15:54, 15 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure where the problem is, but this sounds like it might be in mediawiki. I would try looking around at http://www.mediawiki.org or at https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org. --mikeu ^talk 12:31, 25 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. Can you confirm if the same problem happens for you ? StuRat 14:22, 25 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Show to Hide and back to Show works fine for me on both recent changes and my watchlist. I'm using Firefox. CQ 21:40, 28 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I seem to have this same problem. Tried it in Firefox on Windows 7, and Firefox and Internet Explorer on Vista. Also seems to effect other WMF Wikis. I suspect it will have been raised on bugzilla. Adambro 22:03, 28 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I can't find a report on Bugzilla on this. Can you ? StuRat 11:09, 29 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

A kinda/sorta related bug is 17256. That was the only result of a search for "watchlist hide show". --mikeu ^talk 16:22, 5 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I don't quite understand that bug report. What's the "invert" it talks about ? StuRat 00:20, 6 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Just below the line with "hide minor edits" etc. there is a pulldown menu to select Namespace: to choose, for example, to only show edit in User_Talk: space. The Invert Selection checkbox shows all pages _except_ that one namespace. --mikeu ^talk 00:25, 6 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, that's what that does. I was thinking it was supposed to invert colors in the display. StuRat 09:45, 6 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The odd thing is that it seems to work fine in Recent Changes, but does not work in My Watchlist. Tested using:

Mozilla 1.7 for Sun Java Desktop System (Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; SunOS sun4u; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20070606)
Firefox 2.0.0.19 (Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; SunOS sun4u; en-US; rv:1.8.1.19) Gecko/20090218 Firefox/2.0.0.19)
Opera 9.00 . Build 344 for SunOS. Qt library 3.3.5.

--mikeu ^talk 10:39, 29 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks to everyone who tried to confirm this bug. StuRat 11:05, 29 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Same problem in el.wv --

-- (profile|chit chat|email) 11:59, 29 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. That's Greek, right ? StuRat 13:48, 29 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, el is greek. I also see the same bug on en-wikipedia, so it is not site specific. --mikeu ^talk 16:26, 5 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

OK, thanks. StuRat 00:20, 6 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Definately a bug in watchlist show/hide feature. CURRENTVERSION = 1.16alpha(r52088) • CQ 23:50, 11 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]