Wikiversity:Candidates for Custodianship/DannyS712
I see a great deal of support and little opposition from our long term contributors to en-wv. @DannyS712: welcome as a new custodian,[1] we appreciate your continued contributions and thank you for supporting our project. --mikeu talk 02:19, 20 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I would like to nominate User:DannyS712 for custodianship. DannyS712 has been a Bureaucrat-appointed Curator for a month and a half now, and has made a significant effort to clean up our user interface, orphaned talk pages, empty categories, and vandalism. Moreover, DannyS712 has an extensive global activity history across hundreds of wiki projects with 100,000+ edits and has earned a trusted role on 23 other projects. The addition of custodian tools would allow DannyS712 to more actively support Wikiversity anti-vandalism efforts. DannyS712 has shown a very strong interest in the wiki platform, and another user with the technical background to help edit abuse filters would be most appreciated. -- Dave Braunschweig (discuss • contribs) 21:16, 9 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
- Thank you for those kind words. I accept the nomination. --DannyS712 (discuss • contribs) 21:20, 9 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Questions
edit- Where do you see opportunities to enhance Wikiversity from a Custodian tools perspective, and how would you approach these opportunities? -- Dave Braunschweig (discuss • contribs) 21:23, 9 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
- Among the tools that custodians have that I would use are the ability to block users and the ability to modify abuse filters. Short-term blocks for repeated vandalism prevent more damage to the project, and so do abuse filters. I acknowledge that abuse filters, if edited improperly, can create widespread problems, but am familiar with the extension and how to use it. Most filters here are private, so I would start be taking a look at what is already set up, and, if I see any possible improvements, test them using the batch interface or a log-only filter before escalating. I'm happy to explain more about anything if clarification is desired. Thanks, --DannyS712 (discuss • contribs) 21:28, 9 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
editVoting
edit- Support - As proposer. -- Dave Braunschweig (discuss • contribs) 21:40, 9 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
- Support I've been noticing numerous productive contributions in many areas. --mikeu talk 22:36, 9 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
- Support - well known global user, highly trusted. Scott Thomson (Faendalimas) talk 22:44, 9 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
- Support, modifying abuse filters to balance reducing vandalism from commercial sources while not limiting new productive users and editors appears to be a delicate endeavor that I believe DannyS712 will succeed in. --Marshallsumter (discuss • contribs) 01:32, 10 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
- Support, of course. Hasley 13:05, 10 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
- Support reducing vandalism and reduction of time span in which disrupted pages are visible is an apprecitated contribution to preserve community health and perceiving Wikiversity as a welcoming and constructive collaborative environment for Open Educational Resources.--Bert Niehaus (discuss • contribs) 15:03, 10 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
- Support without any arguments. He is one of the most active, trusted, competent Wikimedians I have ever seen. Masumrezarock100 (discuss • contribs) 01:15, 12 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
- Support Veronica Jean Anderson 97305 I'm here at Portland State University on a legal hold because of what I intend to contribute towards your project. I appreciate the space and look forward to hearing from Marion County Courts on Friday 12/13 whether I will be allowed to continue. Please keep up the good work! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jeanieandie (talk • contribs) 12 December 2019 (UTC)
(unrelated self-promotional content removed, available at [2] -- Dave Braunschweig (discuss • contribs) 03:41, 12 December 2019 (UTC))[reply] - Oppose cross-wiki hat collector who would be a net-negative on any project where he was a sysop. Sloppy work, takes over projects for the sake of having more under his umbrella, and pointy whenever this is pointed out. Firm net negative everywhere he goes. TonyBallioni (discuss • contribs) 01:45, 16 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
- TonyBallioni, would you mind explaining why you believe that I am a hat collector? w:Wikipedia:Hat collecting defines hat collecting as "the process of gaining rights on Wikipedia (and other wikis) just to show off or to boost one's ego, rather than because you have any actual use for them." - do you believe that I have no actual use for custodian rights? Also, I am only a sysop on mediawiki - can you please explain how I have been a "net-negative" on that project? Thanks, --DannyS712 (discuss • contribs) 01:48, 16 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
- On every project where he has advanced rights he has used those rights. He is a admin on mediawiki.org where he is one of the most active admin. I can easily provide proof that he is using the rights he has on every projects. Now it's your turn to provide evidence to counter my claim. Masumrezarock100 (discuss • contribs) 01:59, 16 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
- See below: my definition of hat collecting is seeking out permissions for the purpose of making oneself seem more important. I think that fits here. TonyBallioni (discuss • contribs) 02:07, 16 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
- No: I don’t think you have any use for them here that you couldn’t have without them, and I think your temperament is fundamentally unsuited for any position of trust on any Wikimedia project. I care about the culture of our projects, and prefer to see one of collaboration and work towards the common good. From you I have seen nothing but attempts to promote your own position cross-wiki. The most recent example of this is how you decided to subscribe anyone who expressed interest in something to a mailing list that promoted one of your own scripts without bothering to ask. This is just pure arrogance, and is an example to your general approach to Wikimedia. A sysop should not seek first to promote themselves, but rather to help the community. I think you only care about the former, which is what makes you incompatible with this role. TonyBallioni (discuss • contribs) 01:58, 16 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
- If you believe that my goal was to promote myself, then I apologize for the misunderstanding. That was most definitely not my intention. As for the mailing list, my goal was to help the community, and thus wanted to inform others of a script that fulfilled a feature request (phab:T5525) from 2005. I also included a link to unsubscribe. My work on that script has been entirely to try and help. You talk about collaboration - is there anything you would like to collaborate on with me? Or do I not get the chance to show you that your inference as to my intentions is wrong? Thanks, --DannyS712 (discuss • contribs) 02:07, 16 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
- I think you have those chances and prove the opposite. TonyBallioni (discuss • contribs) 02:10, 16 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
- So that's what it is. You are just angry that he subscribed you to his newsletter without asking. FYI, GlobalWatchlist.js, the subject of the newsletter is closely related to Crosswatch. That's why he thought you and others might be interested. You were given a link to subscribe from the newsletter. Weren't you? I know what you are feeling right now. Some users also sent me and other users spam messages just because they thought I/we might be interested. For example, the newsletters of Wiki Loves Monuments Italy 2019 and Google Code-In 2019. I was given the same response as I am saying you to now. If you want to discuss about it, feel free to start an RFC as not only Danny but also others do this kind of thing. But please don't oppose a good-faith candidate without even looking at their contributions first. Masumrezarock100 (discuss • contribs) 02:17, 16 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
- No. That’s only one example, though it’s the most recent. I am very familiar with Danny. His method on en.wiki is to dive head first into things he is not familiar with and step on the toes of others (example of him explaining to one of the first oversighters the history of the term.) There he also has a habit of taking over any script that someone else made if they retired, rebundling it as his own. I am not familiar with his work on Wikiversity, but I’m extremely familiar with his work elsewhere, and he’s not someone I think should be given any degree of trust by a content project. TonyBallioni (discuss • contribs) 02:22, 16 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
- If you believe that my goal was to promote myself, then I apologize for the misunderstanding. That was most definitely not my intention. As for the mailing list, my goal was to help the community, and thus wanted to inform others of a script that fulfilled a feature request (phab:T5525) from 2005. I also included a link to unsubscribe. My work on that script has been entirely to try and help. You talk about collaboration - is there anything you would like to collaborate on with me? Or do I not get the chance to show you that your inference as to my intentions is wrong? Thanks, --DannyS712 (discuss • contribs) 02:07, 16 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
- On every project where he has advanced rights he has used those rights. He is a admin on mediawiki.org where he is one of the most active admin. I can easily provide proof that he is using the rights he has on every projects. Now it's your turn to provide evidence to counter my claim. Masumrezarock100 (discuss • contribs) 01:59, 16 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
- TonyBallioni, would you mind explaining why you believe that I am a hat collector? w:Wikipedia:Hat collecting defines hat collecting as "the process of gaining rights on Wikipedia (and other wikis) just to show off or to boost one's ego, rather than because you have any actual use for them." - do you believe that I have no actual use for custodian rights? Also, I am only a sysop on mediawiki - can you please explain how I have been a "net-negative" on that project? Thanks, --DannyS712 (discuss • contribs) 01:48, 16 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: Please confine discussion here to specific actions that you believe disqualify a candidate and refrain from imparting motives to those actions. It is more helpful to be specific (with links or diffs) rather than to make generalizations or vague comments for which the context might not be obvious to other local participants. Disputes from other sites should not spill over here. It's fine if someone opposes due to cross-wiki activity, but settle any disagreements where they began. Be mindful of WV:AGF and WV:CIVIL at all times. --mikeu talk 03:21, 16 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
- Support - Helpful and not a hat collecter. -- CptViraj (📧) 03:44, 17 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
- Support Not going to break anything. Vermont (discuss • contribs) 11:58, 17 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
- Is that your way of implying that "he can be trusted"? Masumrezarock100 (discuss • contribs) 12:16, 19 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]