Talk:Motivation and emotion/Textbook

Emotions

we were just chatting on IRC about this edit which took out a few emotions. We were trying to figure out whether or not it was based on the IP being an open proxy, or maybe the edit was intended to simplify the list somewhat - we don't really know, so I thought I'd ask here :-) - is it ok to restore those emotions, and generally edit away? cheers, Privatemusings 03:36, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Please feel free to restore/add more emotions (I'm not really keeping up, sorry) - among other things, I am hoping to use the list of emotions on printed cards for a class tutorial Q sort exercise which will work best if we have more emotions to work with it and sort into underlying dimensions of emotion. -- Jtneill - Talk - c 03:51, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Oops, I just checked that diff - that was an accidental take-out of emotions by me - sorry, thanks. -- Jtneill - Talk - c 03:53, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Correct Project?

Had the following passing thought. Shouldn't the textbook section of this resource be over at wikibooks? I am not sure quite what WV should include but I thought it explicitly excluded things covered by other WMF projects. Thenub314 21:12, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

Seems to be a label on b:Motivation and Emotion that it's being developed here. Why not simply develop it there and flesh out the book directly... Adrignola 21:28, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

I am not fully sure I follow you. Which label do you mean? (Right the label at Wikibooks) I figured if it were to develop into a full fledged book, we would have handy things like navigation templates all ready to go, and some people at WB might have useful advise about how to setup an index, etc, etc. It struck me that, where this doesn't exactly seem to be OR (at least the Course cites a references, and I assume the book could to) it might fall under the scope of WB. I secretly want to foster a bit more partnership between the WMF family, and this seemed like a good place where we could develop the textbook at WB and the course here and have things go hand in hand. Thenub314 00:51, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure that's my argument above. So we're in agreement there. Adrignola 00:57, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, this has been raised by at least one other person. Basically, at this point its primarily a learning exercise for students and the students are already keeping an E-portfolio on Wikiversity, so I don't want to complicate things too much for them at the moment. When the chapters are complete, then I'm happy to get the content moved over to WB. -- Jtneill - Talk - c 10:07, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

I find waiting detrimental to participation in our sister project. If we would like the university students to develop a textbook we should introduce them to the project where textbooks are developed. As we can easily link between the two projects the complications for the students should be minimal. Thenub314 15:02, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

I realize there's a bit of a panic on WB lately related to rapidly declining participation, but there's no zero-sum game between the two projects. Ordering people around and adding deletion templates to pages that are integral to the learning project also gives the impression of WB as a rather hostile environment in which to develop classroom materials. The rules are supposed to support and encourage the content creators, rather than the wiki itself. --SB_Johnny ^talk 10:59, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

Hey, Thenub, you want to create a textbook there? If the volunteers want to do it here, and if it isn't a textbook yet, it is just some educational resources, why not allow it to happen in its own time? --Abd 15:54, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

If this isn't a textbook then much of the material at wikibooks is not a textbook. Wikibooks is the WMF project dedicated to developing textbooks, and this is already more structured then the material there. Moreover the express point of this page to make a textbook. So much so that notes have been added to the corresponding wikibook telling people not to develop the book there, that it should be developed here at wikiversity. In my opinion the notes discourage wikibookians from taking part in the development of this text. We could remove the notes at wikibooks and have a duplication of effort. Or as the policy suggests we let the book portion of wikibooks be developed at wikibooks hand in hand with the course being developed here. Thenub314 16:45, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

This is currently #1 a learning exercise and #2 a book exercise at the moment. Once the learning exercise component is done, it is intended that appropriate material be transwikied, hence my setting up of a placeholder page at b:Motivation and emotion. I've tried to improve the notes on that page to encourage others to edit at WB. Feel free to improve/contribute content and peer review. -- Jtneill - Talk - c 22:08, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

Date

Could we use absolute dates instead of weeks. Not being enrolled in the university makes it difficult to know when week 3 is. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Thenub314 (talk • contribs) 03:09, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

Y Done (Week 3 (5 Sep)). FYI, more info about specific dates can be found on the accompanying Moodle site here [1]. Basically, more generic info is on WV, more time-specific, unit-specific info is on Moodle. -- Jtneill - Talk - c 22:02, 25 August 2010 (UTC)