Talk:Virtues

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Candidate ValuesEdit

Here are lists of values that are candidates for inclusion:

Rush Kidder Values: love, truthfulness, fairness, freedom, unity, tolerance, responsibility, respect for life.

Maslow B-values: wholeness, perfection, completion, justice, aliveness, richness, simplicity, beauty, goodness, uniqueness, effortlessness, playfulness, truth, honesty, reality, and self-sufficiency

Christopher Peterson and Katherine Dahlsgaard study: Wisdom and knowledge, courage, love and humanity, justice, temperance, and spirituality and transcendence. (These are amplified by the “signature strengths” work. See: http://emotionalcompetency.com/strengths.htm )

The 12 Schwartz values: Achievement, Benevolence, Conformity, Hedonism, Power, Security, Self-Direction, Stimulation, Tradition, Universalism See: http://emotionalcompetency.com/values.htm

The 48 positive human characteristics that have been associated with wisdom. See: http://wisdompage.com/WisdomCharacteristics.html

From “A Small Treatise on the Great Virtues” : politeness, fidelity, prudence, temperance, courage, justice, generosity, compassion, mercy, gratitude, humility, simplicity, tolerance, purity, gentleness, good faith, humor, love.

Object Types:Edit

Clarify the distinctions between the following terms and concepts: Virtues, strengths, values, goals, tasks, activities, projects, problems, human needs, opportunity, or solutions.

Color Wheel and Virtues StructureEdit

Three primary colors can be combined to create the many thousands of colors we can perceive. These can be arranged into elegant structures such as the color wheel or the HSB model. Shalom H. Schwartz has developed the Universal theory of human values which arranges human values in to an elegant structure. Is such a structure known for virtues?

VicesEdit

Consider adding a list of vices to provide contrast. See, for example page 41 of "a theory of virtue"

Malace, including cruelty, envy, hatred, and vindictiveness (perhaps mitigated by sincere belief in the value of retributive justice).

Ruthlessness -- indifference to harming others to achieve your own (selfish) ends by any means -- disregard for the good of others.

Indifference -- eg careless behavior that results in harm to another.

(a common theme seems to be causing or allowing harm to another person). --Lbeaumont 21:09, 1 October 2011 (UTC)

Performance VirtuesEdit

It may be helpful to separate "moral virtues" from "performance virtues" (e.g. some from Ben Franklin's list). These (or something very close to these) are called "motivational" virtues and "structural" virtues, respectively, in p 32 of "A theory of virtue". --Lbeaumont 18:11, 4 October 2011 (UTC)

KOHLBERG'S STAGES OF MORAL DEVELOPMENTEdit

Address KOHLBERG'S STAGES OF MORAL DEVELOPMENT, see: http://faculty.plts.edu/gpence/html/kohlberg.htm and also: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lawrence_Kohlberg%27s_stages_of_moral_development Consider addressing this under the "moral integration" candidate virtue. --Lbeaumont 19:29, 5 October 2011 (UTC)

Bumper Sticker SlogansEdit

Would it be helpful to compose "Bumper Sticker Slogans" for each of the candidate virtues? It might provide students a memory device for recalling a core or essential definition of each. The downside might be mistaking the bumper sticker for the subtly and complexity of each virtue. --Lbeaumont (talk) 14:54, 5 July 2012 (UTC)

Rotation of Axis?Edit

It seems this (traditional) set of virtues is fraught with exceptions based on interdependencies among particular virtues. I wonder if some other set of virtues, derived by some “rotation of axis” or other transformation or fresh point of view could lead to a simpler set of “rules to live by”. Can we remove the epicycles? --Lbeaumont (talk) 21:04, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

Do Great speeches appeal to virtue?Edit

Begin with a selection of great speeches such as the Gettysburg address and I have a dream. Analyze the text to identify appeals to various virtues. How can such insight improve our critical analysis of other speeches and our own speech writing? --Lbeaumont (talk) 13:39, 30 September 2012 (UTC)

Seeking a Minimal Spanning SetEdit

Can some list of virtues be demonstrated to form a minimal spanning set? To prove this the following questions need to be answered:

  1. Is the listed attribute truly a virtue?
  2. Is there some virtue that is not listed?
  3. Are any listed virtues redundant with others on the list?

--Lbeaumont (talk) 13:41, 30 September 2012 (UTC)

ImagesEdit

I would like to include one compelling image on each page of this course. I don’t like the Greek statues included in Wikipedia on many of these topics. If you have any suggestions for images concepts please let me know. --Lbeaumont (talk) 14:55, 19 October 2012 (UTC)

Expanding to cover more virtues?Edit

The course appears to be 80-90% based on a single book (A Small Treatise on the Great Virtues: The Uses of Philosophy in Everyday Life). Is there any plans to expand it to cover more than a brief sampling of other virtues / collection of virtues?n(Question sent via email from user Ghrae)

In designing the course an early decision had to be made regarding what specific virtues would be discussed in depth. I had difficulty locating references to help with this decision. When I came across the book "A Small Treatise on the Great Virtues" I felt the list of virtues it covered was a good starting point. I adopted that book's 18 virtues, and added 2 more. In researching each virtue I strived to consult a variety of references. For wisdom, I was able to draw in the considerable resources at the Wisdom Pages. The courage module draws primarily on the book “The Mystery of Courage”. The justice module takes advantage of the justiceharvard lectures. In general I worked to read one or two books dedicated to each virtue to increase the depth of my understanding of that virtue before writing each module. I was not successful in every case. I have listed several books for “further reading” for most of the virtues. I have read each of these books and draw upon them in the various modules. Finally, there is the section on “Other Systems of Virtues.” Here I survey other compendiums of virtues, and then reconcile the lists in detail before inviting the student to suggest their own list. I am certainly open to broadening the basis for the course. If you can suggest specific references I should study to improve the course I sill appreciate it. --Lbeaumont (discusscontribs) 02:18, 10 April 2013 (UTC)

Inner awareness VirtuesEdit

It's important to keep in mind the purposes behind any depiction of virtues. Sardello's inventory of virtues (linked below) relate to inner awareness in soul-spirit modes of orientation and perception. Both relate directly to the human feeling life (of inner sensing, feeling, and imagining); thus, interior felt presence (which is the orientation of "aesthesis," see James Hillman for explication).

Here's the link: http://reneecoleman.net/the-power-of-soul-living-the-twelve-virtues

The virtues (now) covered in the course are interpersonal. The virtues on the list linked above, that are not covered in the course (e.g devotion, equanimity, patience) are intrapersonal.

(This entry was adapted from a personal email by. --Lbeaumont (discusscontribs) 19:34, 18 January 2019 (UTC) )

Kindness CurriculumEdit

Evaluate the "Kindness Curriculum" provided by the Center for Healthy Minds. See: https://centerhealthyminds.org/join-the-movement/lessons-from-creating-a-kindness-curriculum Consider including relevant materials. --Lbeaumont (discusscontribs) 23:01, 20 February 2019 (UTC)

Nicomachean EthicsEdit

Integrate the Nicomachean Ethics into the course. --Lbeaumont (discusscontribs) 11:44, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

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