Talk:Stigma/Examples

Stigmatization serves an important social function in establishing norms, etc. In some cases, this stigmatization is useful (it was an important form of discipline in Greece and Anglo-Saxon Britain, for example). In other cases, when individuals have been incorrectly stigmatized, it is a hindrance to society. If killing is also considered stigmatization, then this is even more extremely the case—every single individual who was executed or killed in the history of mankind has been "stigmatized"; sometimes quite rightly (in the case of mass murderers, etc.) The Jade Knight ^(d'viser) 01:52, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

That is all your opinion, Moulton, and a great many people (including many brilliant ones) disagree with you. Yes, there is a school of thought which opposes stigmatism. There is another which supports it. The only tackiness I see going on is your use of condescending language, loaded rhetoric and one-sided examples. Can't you be more mature than that? Or at least more open-minded? The Jade Knight ^(d'viser) 03:47, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

I'm willing to listen, but won't stand for disrespect. The Jade Knight ^(d'viser) 06:21, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

Examples

• Socrates execution, while universally condemned, does not seem to have negatively affected perceptions of Athens in any significant way, and it was certainly popular at the time (though Socrates retained a loyal following after his death; had Plato not written the Republic, however, it is questionable how much would be known of him as a philosopher today).
• It's impossible to deal with Jesus in a succinct fashion without taking a stance interpreting him as a god, a Prophet, or explicitly none of these at some point in the context of stigmatization. If you want to give him his own page and disclose an explicit POV, ok. But there isn't room to do him justice here.
• Henry's reign seems to have been degraded by a lot of things. Becket's execution strikes me as incidental in many ways.
• If anything, the Witch Trials seems to have been popularized. Universally condemned, yes, but they've been a great tourist attraction for Salem.
• It seems as if you're trying to stigmatize those who you are claiming did the stigmatizing. Funny, that.
• I still don't consider any of this "stigmatization" in the Sociological sense.

The Jade Knight ^(d'viser) 06:42, 4 October 2008 (UTC)