Wikiversity:Colloquium/archives/October 2018

In a time before Linne and Darwin

All thanks to @Dave Braunschweig Cloud forest (discuss • contribs) 00:13, 29 September 2018 (UTC)

I´m incursioning at WIKIPEDIA creating the articles:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mammal_species (under debate for deletion AfD) and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mammal_species/navigation, (proposed for deletion) ((available)) 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_animals_(latin) (proposed for deletion) DELETED  (available)

So far, so good. Good day to all! Cloud forest (discuss • contribs) 07:13, 7 October 2018 (UTC)

Extended content

A ANAS, APICULA, AQUILA, ARANEA, ASINUS B BLATTA, BUFO C CAMELLUS, CAMELOPARDALIS, CANCER, CANIS, CAPRA, CERVUS, CIMEX, COCHLEA, CORVUS, COTURNIX, CROCODILUS D DELPHIN, DROMEDARIUS E ELEPHANTUS, EQUUS حصان F FALCO, FELIS, FORMICA G GALLINA, GRYLLUS H HIPPOPOTAMUS, HOMO, HYAENA I IBEX, INSECTUM L LACERTUS, LEO, LEPUS, LIBELLA, LINX, LUPUS M MULIER, MUSCA O OCTOPUS, OSTREA, OVIS P PALUMBA, PANTHERA, PAPILIO, PASSARE, PAVUS, PHOCA, PISCIS, PORCUS R RANA, RHINOCEROS S SALAMANDRA, SCARABAEUS, SCIURUS, SCORPIO, SERPENS, SIMIUS, STRUTHIO T TALPA, TARTARUCHA, TAURUS, THERMAE, TIGRIS U URSUS V VACCA, VERMIS, VESPERTILIO, VULTUR

Cloud forest (discuss • contribs) 17:34, 2 October 2018 (UTC)

Fake News in Canada is Ready .. umm, what?

On the front page, this notice pops up: 23 September: Fake news in Canada is ready!

As I have an interest in Fake News, I visited the page. I just have one question -- what is this?

It appears to be a log of tracking of Fake News site campaigns. There is a brief explanation at the top about "products advertised", but overall it has little if any educational value.

Now, I fully understand that it can take time to flesh out resources, and being a wiki a user can come, create a page and immediately abandon it. My concern is that something of potential interest and seemingly marked as "ready" (by templates?) and placed on the front page is actually of little value, and shouldn't be promoted.

(The upside is that I was so bothered by this I dug out my account details to log in and voice my concern. And I may be bold and rework the resource, if I can figure out what the original author was trying to do.) Am I just not understanding the motivation or missing some context? Historybuff (discuss • contribs) 07:19, 29 September 2018 (UTC)

Somebody requested that it be deleted, so I added the {{PROD}} (proposed deletion) template, and assumed there would be discussion on whether it should remain, be deleted, or be moved into DRAFT space. There was a movement afoot to move pages into DRAFT if they could not be demonstrated to have specific pedagogical value. A consensus was reached on using DRAFT space this way. I know of suggestions that we reconsider, but to my knowledge, no discussions have begun.Guy vandegrift (discuss • contribs) 00:13, 30 September 2018 (UTC)

@Historybuff: If you are interested in developing that resource, consider creating an understandable page at Fake News and moving Fake news in Canada to a subpage of it. Whatever FNIC is, it might be nice to create and monitor a main page article on Fake news and allow articles in progress to be subpages of it. Or... we could follow some guidelines and place the works-in-progress in Draft space. Either way is OK with me. But I suspect there will be a consensus to get Fake news in Canada off the top of a mainspace article.--Guy vandegrift (discuss • contribs) 00:29, 30 September 2018 (UTC)

Hi Guy ... I've actually done a small project in Fake news, and thought this might be a different take. I've looked at it a few times, and it's different ... but whatever it is, it isn't comprehensible in the form it is, at least to me. I was a bit tired and thought I might be missing something, which is why I left a note here. I looked again, and my best guess is that it was someone's research bits, but without the context of what else is going on, it's of little value to other people. (I like your idea, and if I have some time in the new week, I'll work a bit on it)

The main thing that bothered me enough to mention it was it showing up on the Main page, purporting to be ready, when at best it's still very rough. Whether by design or by accident, this page shouldn't be showing up as ready based on the state it is in. Historybuff (discuss • contribs) 05:15, 30 September 2018 (UTC)

@Historybuff: This needs to be discussed at Wikiversity:Requests_for_Deletion#Fake_news_in_Canada

Monsieur Phi wikified for Philosophy ... and other vulgarization channels

For those who are not familiar with the channel, I invite you to consult it: Mr. Phi

Recognizing the contribution of a narrative structure in the transmission of this discipline and finding the work of Mr. Phi of great quality, I said to myself:

"A comic-strip version of these episodes would be great (Imagine you have to teach your kids philosophy classes when they're teenagers. You know.). Images and figures + scripts or transcription. This would allow by translating the texts to linguistically derived this production." (it would also be electronically lighter : a few images and text instead of videos)

And to conclude to myself that I had to turn the idea around here (as I did for the french wikiversity). Pursuing the idea, I also thought that it could be extended to other vulgarization chains (i'm quite sure anglophone channels of good quality exist to).

Hoping it inspires you.

BR

--RP87 (discuss • contribs) 07:38, 16 October 2018 (UTC)

The Community Wishlist Survey

The Community Wishlist Survey. Please help translate to your language.

Hey everyone,

The Community Wishlist Survey is the process when the Wikimedia communities decide what the Wikimedia Foundation Community Tech should work on over the next year.

The Community Tech team is focused on tools for experienced Wikimedia editors. You can post technical proposals from now until 11 November. The communities will vote on the proposals between 16 November and 30 November. You can read more on the wishlist survey page.

/User:Johan (WMF)

11:05, 30 October 2018 (UTC)

template import apology!

Hi, I realise just imported a whole load of templates to "WikiJournal Preprints/Template:XYZ" in stead of just "Template:XYZ". I'm going through and fixing them. T.Shafee(Evo﹠Evo)^talk 12:14, 30 October 2018 (UTC)