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Test and QuizEdit

Hello Juan, I have replied to your question here. --Erkan Yilmaz 18:51, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

Spanish speakersEdit

To find other teachers, please look at the lists here and here. You can also find potential students on both of those pages. The Jade Knight 22:08, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

Ou, thanks and also for copyediting. I will have a look next week.--Juan 14:36, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
No problem. I've hit some of the major things that will cause comprehension problems, but many of them still could use further proofreading. I highly recommend you check out the English Language Department and the Writing Center and check out some of the resources there to brush up on your English. If you're not sure what a word is in English, Wiktionary can be helpful, as well as the English Wikipedia (I use this method all the time for French words I don't know). The Jade Knight 10:02, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
OK, next time Ill try to do better job. I will use Microsoft Word to corect my texts. I promise.--Juan 12:11, 22 March 2007 (UTC)


Yo puedo ayudar, pero coordínate con Spanish One y poned bien claro lo que se puede hacer, no es nada evidente para los que entramos por aquí

Es que aquí tenemos dos sistemas diferentes de la enseňaza, pero inmentaré a hacer algo con esto. Quizá la semana que viene.--Juan 18:34, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
Aunque hace tiempo que no edito en la Wikiversidad, no me he desvinculado. Ahora estoy preparando una encuesta sobre el uso de wikis para aprender vocabulario. Disculpa que no pueda ayudarte en estos momentos. De todas formas estaré pendiente de tus aportaciones. Además, te comento, por si no lo sabías, que acaban de implementar la extensión para hacer pruebas de conocimiento en Wikiversidad. [1] Espero que la puedas sacar provecho. Un saludo, --Javier Carro 14:00, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Muchas gracias por tu respuesta y por el enlace. Aquí an la wikiversidad existen low "scripts" para examinar, pero para mí muy difíciles. Necesito algo más fácil. Espero que ese en mediawiki sería mejor. Si se trata del vocabulario eso es lo que necesitamos para los cursos de las lenguas aquí para los estudiantes - diccionario útil. Es que Wikcionario en inútil usamos los diccionarios externos. Quizá Sendbox server nos dará una platforma nueva. Ahora solomante puedo preparar con otros la databasis de las palabras como ha mostrado en la discusion aquí.--Juan 14:13, 30 March 2007 (UTC)


Hi Juan - i just saw this comment you made a while back. I'm just interested - what do you mean by "an unfriendly environment" at the old Topic:Spanish page? It'd be good to know how to make things a little friendlier. :-) Salud. Cormaggio talk 00:10, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

Well. "Unfriendly environment" was a html script there. Template, which I uploaded there is friendlier to edits, but of course it will be still... Anyway someone may say that the future appereance was friendlier than this. So it is a question. I had to change its source code, cus I coudlnt support that code by new data (lot of time looking what fits where.--Juan 13:47, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

fr wikiversityEdit

I have just seen your comment and I'm sorry to answer your question so late, if you always need a poster contact me on the french wikiversity

spanish courseEdit

It says to register or sign in. How do I do that. I am very interested in learning Spanish for personel use as well as for work. Please an suggestion as to improve my spanish and to join different classes would be greatly appriciated

Well, it sais. But I am not actually having a computer at home so, I can support the spanish courses so much as I would like. Anyway, you allready now a little bit of Spanish. I so it woudl be better to meet e.g via skype?--Juan 11:47, 27 June 2007 (UTC)


Hi Juan. Your invitation made my day. The previous work on this page was something too cold and naive. It irritated me so I left. I've checked your proposal and is very good. I think it's very important, to make it more faster, to create that IRC channel. I would like to colaborate, as a teacher (I'm native speaker) and with recordings. I'd like to meet you also to coordinate better --Elnole 01:01, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

Nice to here that. I think our students are a little bit pissed off, but they dont understand that it is not a fun, to make a lively course. Anyway, recently a few people started to do lessons - so thats good. I think we need to apply slogan of Wikiversity of "Studying by doing" teachers will just coordinate students and practice with them. Students on other hand will study and slowly, make a teaching content wich will be controlled by us. Anyway, have you seen my concept on Spanish: An Introduction? There are still some of the technical difficulties, thats why it slowed down its development. I hope people from service and support will help us more in the future, that we can do our work more effective.--Juan 13:09, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

OK. When be back here on wikiversity lets record some words and during that time I might prepare some text. Now I am ready to buy a computer and internet to home, so everything will hopefully go faster.--Juan 10:47, 20 August 2007 (UTC)


I left a reply for you at Wikiversity talk:Support staff. McCormack 12:53, 27 July 2007 (UTC)


Hello Juan! I'm a university student studying Spanish with the intent of becoming a professor and I'd love to help with the Spanish division project. Just drop me a line and let me know what I can do to help.

Thanks, klmv

Are you able to record pronunciation? If so, could you record orange words from these sites: Spanish: An Introduction/Pronunciation#Pronunciation and Spanish: An Introduction/Pronunciation#Stress. If not, there is also a need to build up a second lesson here: Spanish: An Introduction/Hola. Anyway, we maight have an skype or IRC chat with other people and coordinate our work in here. There is a lot to do. And we have one advantage, that there is a continuous interest for Spanish courses.--Juan 10:44, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

Regarding private foundationEdit

Hi Juan, I think you are referring to an idea to establish a foundation dedicated to just Wikiversity. At the time the Wikimedia Foundation had been stalling over whether to authorize Wikiversity on its servers for several years. The idea generated no interest and a lot of hostility so I have not pursued it. At this time support from Wikimedia Foundation seems adequate so I see no need for a competing Foundation. Thanks for the inquiry. user:mirwin

Now I see what you ment.--Juan 19:04, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Bloom Clock stuffEdit

Hi Juan,

Interesting talking to you on IRC and your talk at the same time :). Here's the scoop:

When there is a log page available, add your signature there, rather than on the text list (otherwise it just has to be moved later). The easiest way is to just hit the little edit link above the recent logs list.

Then add templates to the BCP profile. I only set them up for this account (Juan) so far:

  • add {{bcp/prag/10}} to categorize for "blooming in October in Prague"
  • if you want to add the status as well, add {{bcp/prag/np}} for native plants, {{bcp/prag/ip}} for invasive plants, and/or {{bcp/prag/gp}} for cultivated plants (plants can of course be both invasive and cultivated, or native and cultivated).

More on the keys later, but the unsorted key for Prague in October is Bloom Clock/Keys/Prague/October/All. --SB_Johnny | talk 13:11, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

solar systemEdit

hi, and thanks for your work on the solar system pages. I noticed that Solar System/Earth/Solar System overwiev has an incorrect spelling of "overview" in the title. The pages in Category:Solar System should probably be renamed. Let me know if you need any help with this by leaving a message at my talk page.--mikeu 00:23, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

Thanks Ive correct it.--Juan 11:37, 10 December 2007 (UTC)


Hi Juan. I was looking at this template, and noticed a number of issues with it (sorry) :). First, you're not really using #switch correctly, so the box and category displays won't work... I started a replacement template at {{Wmdgs-wikipedia-survey2a}}, where you should be able to see the switching language used better. {{Wmdgs-makesurveyquestion-2}} can help you design future questions that have 2 possible answer (I'm trying to catch hold of darkcode to create on that allows any number of answers).

Otherwise, I'm not sure about a few of the actual topics.

  1. "IP/registered" and "number of accounts" might be more for a wikimedia survey rather than just wikipedia. Also maybe use a scaled response (always registered, usually registered, sometimes ..., rarely ..., never registered)
  2. "Home project" is already covered in the general survey
  3. The group of questions on "Why someone made their first edit" could probably be collapsed into one single question.
  4. Language questions should be a different surcey altogether, since this affects how someone approaches all the projects (not just WP).
  5. How someone first discovered wikimedia and their first project are probably better in a general survey of all wikimedians (since it can ask instead just "what was your first project?", "which project did you first edit?", "which project did you first read?")

I'm not really sure what you mean by "left to other project". --SB_Johnny | talk 12:42, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

Well, you are right, that I was not thinking a lot when creating this template. I have just copyed one of yourse and overpasting some data. And now answers to your points:
1) Well, some users, are editing regullary and they are not register (I know this from cs), so I wanted to ask: Are you registered or not? The second part: "scalede responsee" - I should tell you that I dont know what does it mean e.g. "rarely registere"? On Wikiversity we have more accounts on Wikipedia it is not so much common, so you are right that it would be better to leave this answer for future, I would like to also know, why people on wikipedia has more accounts.
2) I thout, each survey is unique. Now I see, I was wrong. But, it is possible that users, will not respond all surveys - then well be missing answers.
3) well, yes.
4) here would be the same reply as for no. 2
5) hmmm.--Juan 20:51, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
I hope you don't mind, but I copied this to Template talk:Wmdgs-wikipedia-survey2 (I was relinking stuff on the Wikipedia discussion page). --SB_Johnny | talk 12:04, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

Wikimedian Demographics updateEdit

Hello Juan. I'm writing because you requested a reminder about progress on Wikimedian Demographics. For the time being these will be about once per month.

Speaking of reminders, it turns out the template question isn't the most efficient way of coming up with a mailing list. If you want to recieve this message on another of your talk pages (or don't want them at all), please edit the list on Wikimedian Demographics/Reminders.

To update on progress so far, there have been somewhere around 50 respondents over the past month, with more trickling in slowly but steadily. There are 7 major surveys (or 12, depending on how you count them):

  1. The basic survey (about your participation in Wikimedia)
  2. The "geography" surveys (actually 6 of those, for each inhabited continent)
  3. The Operating System survey (still stubby)
  4. The Wikipedia survey
  5. The Commons survey
  6. The US presidential elections survey
  7. The sexuality and relationships survey

Only the geography surveys have had any major modifications since being originally posted (more countries were added to those).

Several new surveys have been discussed at Talk:Wikimedian Demographics, as well as other places within Wikiversity. A few that might be ready sometime in February include:

  • A survey about Women in Wikimedia
  • A survey about Wikibooks
  • A survey about Wikiversity
  • A survey about administrative issues (including cross-wiki topics such as CheckUser and "global blocking")
  • A survey about environmental issues
  • A survey about religion
  • A survey about international trade

If you have ideas for more surveys, please share them on Talk:Wikimedian Demographics. Thanks for your participation thus far, and we hope to see you soon! --SB_Johnny | talk 11:58, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

Oh, thanks for this. Right now, I am completly without free time.--Juan 22:47, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

Czech contentEdit

ping, ----Erkan Yilmaz Wikiversity:Chat 21:23, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

Could you have a look also here please. Lately much Czech pages here - is there an invasion :-) ----Erkan Yilmaz Wikiversity:Chat 18:58, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

Genus catsEdit

Why are you removing them? It helps to have those for navigating sometimes, etc. I'm thinking about adding a field for species as well in the next template version, since I'm doing a bunch of cultivars too, so that will also make it easier to keep track . --SB_Johnny | talk 14:10, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

Well I thouth genus profile, doesnt fit to genus cat:(--Juan 23:14, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
It's really just to keep things sorted... genera in particular need to have included species linked and tracked to keep data up-to-date. See changes to BCP/Salix to see what I mean :).
BTW, see also Talk:Bloom Clock/Global Key. I'm switching categories on that after the cue updates, but it looks like it will show you matching up to "Early Spring" for March (it matches "Late Winter" here. More on that later :).
Well, OK. I can understand that.--Juan 15:29, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Featured contentEdit

"On other existing Wikiversities, I havent found something simillar to so called Featured Content." ([2])

on de.WV for example there is de:Wikiversity:Kandidaten für empfehlenswerte Kurse (candidates for recommendable courses) - but it is only one yet in. I guess people are not so much interested in it, ----Erkan Yilmaz uses the Wikiversity:Chat (try) 12:51, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
Well, lets add in this link there, not here.--Juan 15:30, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Spanish lessonsEdit

Hi, Juan. I read some Spanish lessons and I find them very interesting, like the wikibook. If you need any help I want to help you. Ah, I was near to forgot to say it, I am Spanish. Akhram 23:15, 9 April 2008 (UTC).

Well, recently many people said, its a mess. So I would say that the best way, will be if the people will not write their answers on the appropriate page, but they will do i on theier subuserpage. Something like: User:name/Spanish. There are two of them. Do you have any idea, I mean your own idea how to organise the courses? --Juan 20:06, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
That option seems to me very good. We can use a template like {{student|Spanish}}, or so, which the interested users can put in their user page. With this template, the inclusion of the student in a category of control is automatic, so, their administration will be easier. Akhram 00:57, 12 April 2008 (UTC).

On the other hand, I have been looking the Spanish Language Division and it seems too quiet and a little confuse. Do you know how many people are really active (as teachers, as students)? Now, the division has a lot of secondary pages with a long lists of participants which may be outdated. I am not a foreign language teacher, so, I have no idea about the organization of courses and contents... but I can help with:

  • Grammar, spelling or exercises correction.
  • Resources addition (from Spain, it is very easy to find varied useful material).
  • Wiki-encoding support.
  • Clerical asistance in general.

Akhram 00:57, 12 April 2008 (UTC).

Well, I would say noone is active. There were some teachers offering help, but nothing was done. Nor on the level of the courses. So its inactive. Aaaa, thank you for your support. The biggest problem I see is that I am just one interested in creating courses, but I dont have enought time to prepare hole course. Its a lot of work. So as I said somewhere, Iam thinking to make hole raw course - I mean just basics for each lesson, and then by some ways students/participants will extend it. Because it is better to have hole corse on 20 %, than have firts to lessons perfect and theny nothing. I think the design could be simmillar to this: betawikiversity:Práce na Wikipedii. Anyway if you like, come to wikiversity-en channel I am there quite often.--Juan 21:29, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

Spanish Language Division... again!Edit

Hola de nuevo, Juan. Tras pasar unas cuantas horas revisando el material existente, ya empiezo a hacerme una idea general del proyecto y de sus necesidades. En primer lugar, me gustaría revisar la estructura del portal y organizar la estructura del directorio, las categorías y las páginas duplicadas. Por otro lado, estoy comprobando las listas de participantes para verificar quiénes siguen interesados en el proyecto y poder agruparlas todas en una única página para facilitar el trabajo. De modo que, me gustaría quedar contigo, en el Skype o en el IRC para saber qué planes tienes sobre el tema. Akhram 03:10, 13 April 2008 (UTC).

Kostival lékařskýEdit

Ahoj, šla by založit stránka pro kostival lékařský (Symphytum officinale)? Díky. --Chemgym 14:42, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

syntax errorEdit

Should be working now... not sure why it wasn't before (it used the exact same phrase as the New Region 4 field). --SB_Johnny | talk 08:40, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

New Template VersionEdit

You might have noticed that new profiles created using {{bcp3}} now have a number of changes in the bottom template (changed on Monday, then I haven't had much time since then to get a note out). The main changes involve the fields which previously required the use of additional templates (such as {{bcp/white}} for white flowering plants). These "embedded" templates have caused a great deal of confusion among some of the new contributors.

On the new template, each of the colors has it's own field. To mark a plant as possible blooming in that color, simply put a "y" or "yes" after the equal sign (similarly for marking plants as herbaceous, etc.). Similarly for all the new fields

For the moment, "forb" should be used for any plant that has no woody parts above ground and is not a vine (e.g., BCP/Hemerocallis has a "y" for both "herbaceous =" and "forb =", while BCP/Ipomoea hederacea has a "y" for both "herbaceous = " and "vine = "). Note that annuals, grasses, sedges, etc. should also be classified as forbs or the time being.

Mike's bot will come through and update the older pages hopefully sometime in the next few days. The old fields will still work for now... several categories will allow us to keep track of which profiles use the older versions (I couldn't figure out an easy way to get the bot to redo the data, so we'll have to do that manually).

Note that the log pages are a bit different now as well, using an (updatable) template instead of text, and using headers differently to allow grouping by year. These can easily be updated by adding {{subst:bcp3-logs}} to the top of the page, then deleting the old text and moving the logs.--SB_Johnny | talk 09:40, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

Plants in cantral europeEdit

Hi Juan, since your regularly request plants from czech republic, i want to invite you to the project "atlas of central european plants" (de:Projekt:Atlas der Blütenpflanzen), where finding places of plants shall be collected. it is in german, but i can add an english introduction. and with the scientific names, it is international anyway. would be really great, if you could provide the places, where you took your photos, for this project. regards, -- Turnvater Jahn 15:04, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Sounds good. But my knoweledge of German is zero. So could you place there and introduction, please. Maybe I will study a little bit:-)--Juan 11:01, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

msg @ German WikiversityEdit

ping, ----Erkan Yilmaz uses the Wikiversity:Chat (try) PS: Tag a learning project with completion status !! 22:49, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

Juan, did you mean "sending"?Edit

"I though I am selling somewhere my opinion." or "I though I am sending somewhere my opinion." Robert Elliott 21:20, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

I dont know what you are talking about. Could you link it?--Juan 19:28, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

Wikiversity:Nominations for checkuser/Erkan_Yilmaz#Community discussionEdit

Hello Juan, thanks for the feedback. Would you like to go a step further and provide some more info ? ----Erkan Yilmaz uses the Wikiversity:Chat (try) 19:28, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

No.--Juan 21:12, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

re:old plantsEdit

Yeah, I do it all the time (especially in winter when I go through my photos from the past year). Easiest way I've found is to just alter the signature for one of your accounts (using Special:Preferences), adding both the signature of the appropriate account and the date you're logging from, make sure raw signatures is selected, and then sign using three tildes rather than four (since the date is already in the signature, and of course is not the current date). Just remember to change it again when you want to log from another account or date, and of course if you're signing on someone's talk page or something :). --SB_Johnny | talk 19:46, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

Uh ohEdit

Hi Juan. You're using an old template version for new page creates (noticed it on BCP/Nepeta cataria). The new one doesn't include the color, calendar season, type, or pollination prompts (see diff). Careful please when altering templates, since the 'bot updates won't work if they're not standard. --SB_Johnny | talk 08:25, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

Well, I am using templates of existing othere profiles. I thought, that when you change basic templates its being changed than for other profiles.--Juan 06:09, 6 July 2008 (UTC)


Hi! This is to answer your last question I hadn't noticed earlier. I don't think there is a notable difference between WV custodian and WP admin in rights or duties. The difference in naming is (according to me) to emphasize the differences between these projects (openness to original research) --Gbaor 10:46, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

Why you are answering here and not there, where I asked? Anyway, have you got an idea, how custodians can emphasize openness and difference? Can you give a particular example?--Juan 06:16, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
Sorry for the late answer (again) :) I answered it here because of the advise of Erkan Yilmaz here. About your next question, what I meant is written also here, probably better. Change in naming of sysops (e.g. custodian not admin) should also emphasize, that something, may be forbidden in other projects (e.g. original research on WP), but allowed here at WV --Gbaor 10:58, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

Czech WikiversityEdit

ping, ----Erkan Yilmaz uses the Wikiversity:Chat (try) 17:16, 20 July 2008 (UTC)

Wikiversity DayEdit

Hi Juan. If you wish to argue about the date of Wikiversity Day, please feel welcome, and please conduct the debate where other Wikiversitarians can join in. I have created a page at Wikiversity:Wikiversity Day/controversy which summarises your arguments as well as the counter-arguments. --McCormack 04:41, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

You havent understood. I am talking about "global" Wikiversity Day for all Wikiversitians (such as from Spanish Wikiversity).--Juan 18:29, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

task listEdit

I've added a couple of items for you to take a look at. Let me know if you have any questions or need any advice. --mikeu talk 14:11, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

Custodian task listEdit

Place here some tasks for this student:

IP addressEdit

Juan, please don't indefinitely block ip addresses since one may be shared by many people. Hillgentleman | //\\ |Talk 00:10, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

You mean this: I dont know what is the problem? Maybe the template on its user page that it is a block. If someone would like to use it, he can register (look: "with an expiry time of infinite (anonymous users only, cannot edit own talk page)". Well, if you browse Google, you can find out there are multiple problems with this IP: [3] such as e.g. this: [4] where it is believed it is an open proxy. So how to prevent Wikiversity against such vandalisms?--Juandev 07:34, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
So finally after some discussion on cs.wp IRC, I have reblock this IP to 3 days.--Juandev 08:10, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
Open proxies are generally blocked 1 year on wm projects. --SB_Johnny talk 13:14, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
Didnt know that. On cs we are blocking OP indefinite.--Juandev 13:58, 9 January 2009 (UTC)


Hi juan, thanks for cleaning up my work a little, Is there a reason it still isn't showing on the main topic page? It only shows when I am logged in for some reason. Graeme E. Smith 01:10, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

Now I dont understand you. What is the main topic page? What should be show there?--Juandev 08:35, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
Errrr, sorry. I thought you are someone different. Let me see what is the problem:-)--Juandev 08:45, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
Maybe this will help:
  • You have some problems to watch pages you are editing? - lets try this "when you are log in click on" MY PREFERENCES --> WATCHLIST --> than "Add pages I create to my watchlist" and "Add pages I edit to my watchlist" should be ticked.--Juandev 09:05, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

Ok, I did that but it still doesn't change the fact that the whole page I have been editing doesn't show on the WikiVersity Artificial Consciousness Topic page. Whenever I jump to that page outside my account the page reverts back to the original page with nothing but the Welcome message. It's probably something I did wrong being a bit naive about Wiki technology, but It's confusing me because I am never sure which version of my main page is being edited. Does this make more sense? (The preceding unsigned comment was added by Graeme E. Smith (talkcontribs) )

I am sorry my friend not replying to you. I havent been here for couple of days as I entered a new possition of a scientist in the Agricultural Museum. Let me show you this:
You can see, there are two pages. When there is nothing at the first one, the other one is full of your edits. That is not a problem, here you can see how I repaired that: [5]. Does it now make sence to you. There are basicaly two pages. Nothing is automatical in Wikiversity. Hope, that we have removed your problem. --Juandev 23:54, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

Oh, Sorry about not signing that message.... I keep forgetting, I seem to have access through the Wikiversity page now to my work, which might mean that it was a problem with my browser. Sorry for the confusion. Uh, I just started experimenting with sub-pages, and I have a problem that I don't know how to get around. When I anchor a subpage, it types the whole page/subpage name in my document. Is there someway to suppress the extra information in order to keep the meaning more clear? --Graeme E. Smith 01:32, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

Well sometimes it helps to cleare your cache. In Internet Explorer pressing CTRL+F5. For other browsers I can look up how to do that if you need. Uf in this case I dont understand you. I dont for example know, what does it mean "to anchor a subpage". If you are in wiki environment, you can "lets say" anchor the page via to ways:
  • place a link to the page (e.g. [[User talk:Juandev/Not existing page|This page doesnt exist]], which will give you This page doesnt exist and after typeing you will get the page which doesnt exist and it is placed at User talk:Juandev/Not existing page)
  • or you can place there a redirect (e.g. #REDIRECT [[User talk:Juandev/Not existing page]]), but redirect works just when it is placed alone on the page and in fact it is not design to create subpages.
So maybe to reply you. If you would like to anchor a subpage to your document without extra information. You will placed there something like [[Artificial Consciousness/Documents|Documents]] which will result in: Documents. Its like: [[w:cs:Pes|pes]] will result in pes:-) --Juandev 23:54, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
Ok, I have rebuilt my contributions a bit, using that technique and it works great! the problem I have now is that I am trying to figure out how to embed a file from wiki commons the file involved is File:Consciousness phenomenal-functional(en).png I'd like to edit it a bit, and reference it from my file but I haven't figured out how to borrow it to edit it, or how to display it once I have an edited copy.--Graeme E. Smith 04:38, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

Study this: w:Wikipedia:Picture tutorial. In short. You find a picture on Commons and this [[File:Consciousness phenomenal-functional (en).png|thumb|This is a [[w:Picture|picture]]]] results in this:

This is a picture

But there are also other parameters you may use, such as PX, frame, boarder and so on. Have a fun during studying.--Juan de Vojníkov 06:21, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

Sorry to bother you again but I am building a portal at Portal: GreySmith Institute and I want to implement 4 forums and a repository, I have been informed that I should build the repository under the CC.whatever copyright instead of GFDL. So far looking at the Research Forum and the WikiCollequium I see that they are very similar to normal wiki pages. However I have a question, how do I place the Table of Contents? None of my pages seem to have it visible, yet I haven't designated a NOTOC line except as part of the Portal template. Further, is it possible to designate under what copyright a page should be opened?--Graeme E. Smith 22:40, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
No thats fine. Those coments were mine of course. Well, in the case of the licence. If something is placed on the Wikiversity it is GFDL by default, but authors of the edits can give additional licences. And I was recomending the other licence, because I probably misunderstood, what do you want to do. But I think licence is not a problem for this time. Only what I can recomend you is tu dubble licence your contributions. It is usually done via template, like this Dual license: {{Dual license: GFDL with CC-BY-SA 3.0 }} (or {{self}}) or simple phrase placed on your user page. Any other asociated documents could by just CC. Next time, I can explain you why, but back to your questions. To the question of the forums: yes, forums are normal wiki pages, so nothing special. They can be better (e.g. new namespace (example), new extension (example), but this needs time and people agreement). Table of Contents? Well it only works if there are sections done via = Heading 1 =, == Heading 2 ==, === Heading 3 ===. So in the case of the portals you are creating it wont work. You should create it manualy probably doing it via a new template. --Juan de Vojníkov 23:26, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

Ok, I'll hold off on the paper storage location for now, until I understand the license options better, I think I can play with the idea of a forum now, and see where it gets me.--Graeme E. Smith 00:04, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

Well, the explanation is easy. Both licenses are free. GFDL license were made deep done in 70s for some Unix documentation and when Wikipedia was launched as the first project of WMF (Wikiversity is the last) all content started to be distributed under GFDL. At that time there were no other free licenses instead of PD. PD seem to be to much open for the funding people and moreover it varies country by country, when GFDL is more uniform. Than few years after CC licences were created and people noticed that Wikimedia content would be better to have under CC licences. Why? GFDL was not design for this kind of information sharing. Major problem is that when you would like to ditribute and/or modify and distribute data formely licensed as GFDL with every copy all about 5 A4 pages should go together and also full history. Thats why we have here this kind of database history and thats why we import from other projects instead of simple copy&paste. But imagine, you are having a picture licensed under GFDL and you would like to distribute it via printed version. It is nearly imposible, because you have to attach full license and its history. Look at this cartoon:
But if you use CC license you can ditribute and/or modify and distribute data just with writingh down the major author(s) and linking the sourse and license itself. It doesnt matter if it is on-line or printed version. So majorly right now wikimedians are double licensing their files (which goes to Wikimedia Commons) and their contributions. The official policy of WMF is thatn to migrate from GFDL to CC. My personnal recomendation thatn would be that all separete files you will license just CC-BY-SA 3.0 and all contributions tu the project dubble licensed GFDL (you have to, as it is default license of the project) and CC-BY-SA 3.0. Any q?--Juan de Vojníkov 01:35, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

OK, let me get this straight. As an original content supplier as long as I am creating a project out of thin air, I am OK, the problem with GDFL is that it requires the whole project to be kept together, plus a HIstory, and a referral to license in any copies. CC-etc, gives creative control, which allows others to borrow my work and break it up into useful chunks, and make use of the chunks as long as the file lists the authors of the chunks, and who was first etc. So if I double license, I can expect my picture of Abe Lincoln to show up with a mustache? But at least it will list that I wasn't the person who added the mustache?--Graeme E. Smith 15:49, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

Yes those are free/open licenses (GFDL, CC, PD). It doesnt matter which you choose all allow other people to modify your work (so e.g. to add a mustache to your Ave Lincoln picture). Well of course, for they pictures usually say: Abe Lincoln mustage.jpg (Author Pete Grant), compilation from abe lincoln.jpg (original author Graeme E. Smith). Look:
When you double license, people may choose under which conditions they will use the imagine. Thats why projects in general has one license. When more licenses for the project, this situation make a big chaos. Here is a nice example of the modification: [11]. Within the Wikimedia community, you cant be afraid that someone would break the rules. Sometimes also Wikimedians call to other world not to break rules using data from projects.--Juan de Vojníkov 19:44, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

Ok, I have some Forums implemented now, Take a look GreySmith Institute I decided to implement them under CC-By-SA 3.0 so that they can be used outside the Institute. Essentially by posting on them you agree that the content is licensed under CC rules. I used the long form for the names, but "Nicknamed" them inside the forum so AC Forum becomes Articial Consciousness Forum etc. (just so it doesn't get mixed up with AC current)--Graeme E. Smith 21:03, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

Well, I have just spoke to one license specialist nad he told me, that you can exclude some page from the official license of the project. So your forums now will be doublelicensed. Licenses are not fun. If you will be interested in more details about this, I can arrange a meeting with him on IRC channel.--Juan de Vojníkov 22:31, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

Better hold off on that, until I load an IRC client, I haven't installed one since I was forced to upgrade in order to connect to my highspeed-light modem. I'll log off. Load one and get back to you once I know it works.--Graeme E. Smith 22:42, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

OK, I have an evaluation copy of an IRC client running in the background let me know what channel to join, and who to ask for--Graeme E. Smith 23:05, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

OK, we are on freenode.net and you can reach both channels, it means #wikiversity and #wikiversity-en. Sorry for delay, I am replying some questions to JWS:-) --Juan de Vojníkov 23:16, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

My IRC client logged me onto Quake.net and I am not getting a response, I logged on as GreyBeard for this session only.

Are you skilled in IRC? You should change from quake.net to freenode.net.--Juan de Vojníkov 23:54, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

So, as I understand it Moulton, like me, comes from a dynamic connection? I keep getting welcomed when I forget to log on. It's nothing I have any control over its the router at the phone compuany, that resets my IP address constantly, It's supposed to reduce the chance of hacking my account, by constantly changing the ip address around. I don't know how effective it is, but most routers have the capability to reset IP addresses periodically. It's part of DHCP I think.

Did you think I was Moulton for some reason?

Are you sure I am not now, and that is why you don't drop by as often? I've begun to think I have bad breath or something.--Graeme E. Smith 00:46, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

Uh, I think this is a time zone issue... I don't think Juan thinks that :-). --SB_Johnny talk 00:58, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
Errr, I dont know, why you think so. I dont think you are Moulton. Of course, it happens that people forgot to log in and then they are editing from different IP adresess. Thats not a problem. By the way, I dont understand why SB Johnny is talking about different time zone, but yes. You guys in US could be UTC -5, -6, -7, -8, but I am UTC +1. So this is from 6 up 9 hour difference. It means when theres a night in US I have a day and vice versa.--Juan de Vojníkov 09:03, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

Ok, Now I have a problem, I just put a short page into the standard namespace describing GreySmith Institute, and someone slapped a category redirect template on it somehow. It claims that Artificial Consciousness is a Computer Science topic, and while some of the pages are listed in the Computing Science category, There are enough pages that fall outside the category for me to be a bit miffed. I think that someone is toying with me. Especially since the redirect template is supposed to be used only in a category directory and GreySmith Institute, as far as I know is not a category yet.--Graeme E. Smith 03:05, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

Heh, I dont see nothing like this. Ask in Colloquium, that is the place for questions.--Juan de Vojníkov 09:03, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

Ok, I think I figured it out, they put the redirect on GreySmith Institute itself and I used the wrong type of link on the page, so it showed on the page, instead of just in the category system. Im getting too used to having to write curly brackets I guess.--Graeme E. Smith 14:50, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

Yes. This is a template {{something}} (template page is in ns Templage: and it can have severla functions).--Juan de Vojníkov 18:54, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

Juan, sorry to bother you again, but is there any way to export the TOC to a separate file? or to suppress the text, and just show the TOC until someone selects a link to a specific range? Where would I look to find out?--Graeme E. Smith 14:45, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

recommendation for full custodianshipEdit

I have opened a nomination for full custodianship. This begins the five day request for the community to comment. --mikeu talk 11:43, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

aaa, thx.--Juan de Vojníkov 13:45, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

Category QuestionEdit

I can't find documentation about categories. I tried to add some categories and one I wanted to add was "Ancient Egypt". The automated message I received suggested looking at (among others) the wikipedia category. Does this mean that we can file wikiversity pages under wikipedia categories? Or does the suggestion mean that a category should be set up along similar lines? Any help/suggestion would be appreciated. I have been working on the Ancient Egyptian Monuments Project in case you wanted to know in what setting the question came up. Barta 18:18, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

Yes, it means, that categories here can have a simmillar system as on Wikipedia.--Juan de Vojníkov 18:57, 5 February 2009 (UTC)


Hi Juan, and congratulations about being a full custodian! I'm very happy for you. --AFriedman 15:34, 7 February 2009 (UTC)


Hi Juan,

I think Wikiversity needs much better resources for recognizing and coordinating mentorship, e.g. research and content development mentorship for User:Graeme E. Smith and course mentorship for User:AdaptiveCampus. I'm trying to fix that by taking the Wikiversity:Mentors program to the next level. Perhaps if good mentorship is recognized, it's more likely to be provided. I've seen you do some very good mentoring, and would appreciate your feedback on the new version of the program. --AFriedman 17:53, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

Course mentorship could be a difficult issue as we are still harvesting the ways how to do it. But let me see.--Juan de Vojníkov 00:06, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

Hi Juan, Have you gotten around to looking at the mentorship page yet? I've also been communicating with User:Graeme E. Smith about how to provide better automated feedback in courses, and he's been revising the Fundamentals of Neuroscience/Electrical Currents lesson just to let you know, and in case you want to look at that for ideas. --AFriedman 00:11, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

Yes I have seen that page. But this time I dont have so much time free as writing my diploma thesis.--Juan de Vojníkov 19:35, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

Bounce from WikibooksEdit

I tried to start a book on Wikibooks, but as some know, they are prejudiced against original research or anything that smacks of it, so they are banning my book. They suggested transwiki-ing it back here and publishing it from here. Any idea how this works? And can you suggest where to find the documentation on publishing from here?--Graeme E. Smith 20:56, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

Well, yeah. Most of the project doesnt allowed original research. Just the Wikiversity do. But it is logic that all books on wikibooks have some ammount of original research. Well, I suggest to write a book in here and then we will see. It can stay here and if someone else need he will call it via v:Book name, when "v" is a Wikiversity prefix how to call pages from Wikiversity. Then when the book will be ready in here, we may transport it to Wikibooks, if they will agree, we can change it to a different format and allow it from Wikimedia Commons or it might stay in here. There is no problem on wv with original research:-)

Nice to hear, that you are still on. I am in preparation for state exams this time, so not having much time to come here.--Juan de Vojníkov 01:29, 30 April 2009 (UTC)


Good evening! I thought I would submit my User page design for your consideration. You can find it at User:Juan de Vojníkov/Design Tigey. I added a note to the bottom with a link to wikEd, an editing tool for Wiki sites that eases viewing the markup. I removed a couple of subpages that I have on my own page for the design since one I have not yet implemented and the other would require a bit of work to port over (the travel template). Let me know if you like it. Tigey 02:16, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

Wow nice. What about to change colors?--Juan de Vojníkov 04:45, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
Changing colors is pretty easy. If you have wikEd, it highlights colors specifications in the wikitext using the color specified so if you have color=ff0000 that text would be highlighted red in the edit window. All of the colors in that design are either named colors (i.e. red) or in RGB format (i.e. ff0000 which equals red). If you would like I can redo the color scheme to the colors you ask for. Tigey 04:54, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
Heh, should try than that.--Juan de Vojníkov 08:28, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

sandbox serverEdit

Since the sandboxserver.org went offline I've been discussing a new server with darkcode and SB_Johnny. We're probably going to go ahead and create a limited version soon. BTW, why are you banned from freenode services? --mikeu talk 14:50, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

Thats a long story.--Juan de Vojníkov 19:17, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

Jimbo's talk pageEdit

Hi Juan! I have seen your entry on Jimbo's talk page. I know that the situation is not easy for anybody here, but I would like to ask you to cool down. Threats with blocking just don't lead anywhere, and I am pretty sure it would make the whole thing a lot worse. --Gbaor 08:17, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

That is not a threat. That is my notice, which I normally use, when someone is violating the project.--Juan de Vojníkov 21:29, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

Mr Wales isn't someone. I would like to have that you resign your administrative powers until the dispute is solved. --Histo 22:17, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

Yes, Mr. Wales is a Wikimedian as us. I can agree with founder flag (as I have seen it for the first time), but I disagree with the way it was used. It is disrupting the community and I was elected to protect it. Mr. Wales and/or WMF could use a better way to inform us, that they disagree with the content and practices hosted on the project.--Juan de Vojníkov 22:36, 18 March 2010 (UTC)


Hello! Juan de Vojinikov and welcome to Wikiversity, need help, don`t go to the famous Wikiversity:Sandbox

User:Geoff Plourde probationary custodianshipEdit

Thanks for mentoring - Geoff is now a probationary custodian. -- Jtneill - Talk - c 07:31, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

OK. Thx!--Juan de Vojníkov 08:45, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
Would you please add yourself to Wikiversity:List of custodian mentors? -- Jtneill - Talk - c 11:01, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
Done.--Juan de Vojníkov 11:39, 3 August 2010 (UTC)


Hi! Thank you for your message. You can put category. Because ı have much a works today... Thanks... --Bermanya 20:23, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

New testsEdit

My Name is Yellow and Should be Juan.? What are you testing? SJ+> 02:39, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Hi, as I commented here: User talk:Geoff Plourde/mentoring 2010#NS Special is really special, I am testing if triple and multiple redirects will be displayed in special:DoubleRedirects and if well have a tool to find them. The same with cyclic redirects. When the experiment will end, these pages will be deleted.--Juan de Vojníkov 04:17, 12 August 2010 (UTC)



I'm still around. A majority of my time has been consumed by college, so I'm not as active as I was during the summer.


Are you recommending?Edit

Heya Juan,

Noticed this this morning... are you going to add a recommendation? He's actually a bit overdue(!), but you need to actually make a recommendation (pro or con) to start the discussion period. --SB_Johnny talk 19:53, 15 October 2010 (UTC)

Well I dont know. I spoke with him to ask him to find another custodian, but he seems not to have time. And he was not acitive enough I can recomend/not recomend him.--Juan de Vojníkov 12:54, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

Good luck for your presentationEdit

Hi Juan - I hope your Wikiversity presentation goes really well - and maybe you some new contributors will be inspired!  . Maybe it can be recorded? Sincerely, James. 08:36, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

PLE feedbackEdit

Hi Juan, since you were involved from begin here in regards to PLE's would you mind sharing your experiences? Thanks, ----Erkan Yilmaz uses the Wikiversity:Chat + Identi.ca 05:16, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

Deleted Content - Unable to log in AccountEdit

Hey I was writing my wikipistoarticle yesterday and clicked the "Save"Button when something really bad happend. I dont know why but the system showed me an error and logged me out. I tried to log in with password. I failed. I thought that I might have forgotten it and send this "remember" mail. Got it and entered the one from the mail and then was asked to set up a new one. Tried it but it didnt worked at all. Im still unable to log in - no matter how hard i try. My whole writings our wikiversity page seems to been gone which really upsets me. I tried it again today. One time the system told me that I cant get a remembermail because I have not registered with mailadress, the next time it works and I get a mail with a password - but this doesnt work either. What can I do? Im quite desperate because the workload of a month might be gone. Please help me.

My username was "Wintertagtraum" my address is "nora.steinbach@edu.uni-graz.at"

Thank you in advance (discuss) 07:10, 15 March 2013 (UTC)Wintertagtraum

Custodian mentoringEdit

Hello Juan, can you please mentor me for custodianship. Thank you! --Draubb (discusscontribs) 19:30, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

Account renamedEdit

Hi Juandev. In case you missed it, see here. Trijnstel (discusscontribs) 14:04, 29 September 2014 (UTC)

Great. That is what I was waiting for.--Juandev (discusscontribs) 03:57, 18 February 2015 (UTC)

Your account will be renamedEdit

23:40, 17 March 2015 (UTC)

Thank youEdit

Thanks for the "welcome back" message. --JWSchmidt (discusscontribs) 01:08, 12 May 2015 (UTC)

Well, I am happy to se you around again.--Juandev (discusscontribs) 10:01, 27 May 2015 (UTC)

Draft namespaceEdit

Hi Juandev!

Welcome back!

If you like, you can record an opinion and vote on the Draft namespace. The discussion is here. --Marshallsumter (discusscontribs) 19:47, 12 March 2018 (UTC)

I thought it have ended and well, I am not sure. But, lets write there my opi.--Juandev (discusscontribs) 20:15, 12 March 2018 (UTC)

How we will see unregistered usersEdit


You get this message because you are an admin on a Wikimedia wiki.

When someone edits a Wikimedia wiki without being logged in today, we show their IP address. As you may already know, we will not be able to do this in the future. This is a decision by the Wikimedia Foundation Legal department, because norms and regulations for privacy online have changed.

Instead of the IP we will show a masked identity. You as an admin will still be able to access the IP. There will also be a new user right for those who need to see the full IPs of unregistered users to fight vandalism, harassment and spam without being admins. Patrollers will also see part of the IP even without this user right. We are also working on better tools to help.

If you have not seen it before, you can read more on Meta. If you want to make sure you don’t miss technical changes on the Wikimedia wikis, you can subscribe to the weekly technical newsletter.

We have two suggested ways this identity could work. We would appreciate your feedback on which way you think would work best for you and your wiki, now and in the future. You can let us know on the talk page. You can write in your language. The suggestions were posted in October and we will decide after 17 January.

Thank you. /Johan (WMF)

18:14, 4 January 2022 (UTC)