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You do not need to be an educator to edit. You only need to be bold to contribute and to experiment with the sandbox or your userpage. See you around Wikiversity! --goldenburg (talk) 16:35, 8 November 2013 (UTC)

To: goldenburg

A comment and a question: First, Thank you for contacting me. Now the question: Should I thank people here on my user_talk or on your user_talk, and if it's on your's should I write on the top or the bottom of your page?

Thanks for commenting! Just thank people on their talk page! --goldenburg (talk) 18:46, 8 November 2013 (UTC)

And there is an "Add topic" Button at the top right side. Click that and type your message, so the answer is bottom. --goldenburg (talk) 22:48, 8 November 2013 (UTC)

I'm sureEdit

Yes, that's okay, just make sure it is not bad enough for Wikiversitians to be concerned. --goldenburg (talk) 23:05, 8 November 2013 (UTC)

You must say that this article is from Wikipedia. --goldenburg (talk) 23:20, 8 November 2013 (UTC)

Thanks! Will do right now. --Guy vandegrift (discusscontribs) 23:23, 8 November 2013 (UTC)


Please don't put stuff on the Sandbox, it's their for practicing rollback. --goldenburg (talk) 23:47, 8 November 2013 (UTC)

My problem is the different protocols between Wikipedia and Wikiversity. Apparently do my editing on User:Guy vandegrift/Project pages. Right? --Guy vandegrift (discusscontribs) 00:55, 9 November 2013 (UTC)

I just made a Book called My First book and labeled it under Conceptual Physics. Again I am wondering if I haven't accidentally submitted something. --Guy vandegrift (discusscontribs) 01:11, 9 November 2013 (UTC)


Remember: Whenever your creating a personal page, use "User:Guy vandegrift/[the personal page title]". I have done that to your Personal Sandbox. --goldenburg (talk) 15:41, 9 November 2013 (UTC)

Now I think I understand: "User: Guy vandegrift/[bla bla bla]" informs everybody not to read it yet. Do I change the name to something public when it's finished? For example, this is ready for people to read: User:Guy_vandegrift/Project/Why_the_Sky_is_Dark_at_Night --Guy vandegrift (discusscontribs) 16:05, 9 November 2013 (UTC)

Yes. --goldenburg (talk) 16:54, 9 November 2013 (UTC)

Page moveEdit

There is an arrow at the top right corner, click the arrow, and click "Move", then read the directions on the page. Thanks! --goldenburg (talk) 16:53, 9 November 2013 (UTC)

Good job!Edit

Nice job editing the wiki! Just be careful! :) --goldenburg (talk) 17:10, 9 November 2013 (UTC)

I have gone through and deleted the many redirects created when Why is the sky dark at night and Talk:Why is the sky dark at night were repeatedly rename/moved. I have kept User:Guy vandegrift/Why the Sky is Dark at Night and User talk:Guy vandegrift/Why the Sky is Dark at Night as I do not know whether you were still using it to find the resource and discussion. In case you still are confused, the main namespace is where resources go, just as the main namespace is where articles go at Wikipedia. Your userspace and your user talkspace can be used for works in progress which you aren't ready to share for anyone to learn and teach from, just as you might work on a new wikipedia article in your userspace at first. -- darklama  15:06, 10 November 2013 (UTC)

Let me tell you how things are set up and you tell me if I am following the rules:

The following two pages are ready to share; at the moment both links work (no redirects):

The following to pages are NOT ready, but are related to the same project:

Finally, everything is documented on my userspace so I won't get mixed up again:

If the aforementioned pages are all proper, the following two should be removed, but I don't know how:

Please let me know if this is all proper! And THANK YOU --Guy vandegrift (discusscontribs) 15:33, 10 November 2013 (UTC)

I think you understand where resources go and the purpose of the user space. -- darklama  15:42, 10 November 2013 (UTC)
Normally people add {{delete|a reason}}. Pages in the User: namespace can be speedy deleted by Custodians (what Wikipedia calls Administrators or sysops) when a user requests a page in their userspace be deleted. -- darklama  17:48, 10 November 2013 (UTC)
  • Normally we don't just copy Wikipedia articles here, except as what might be called a "student project," i.e., to create a new version of the page for educational purpose, that might be, in the opinion of the author, a better version or more complete than Wikipedia would allow, to incorporate original research, allowed here but not there, etc. Indeed, experts might want to create a resource here from the point of view of experts, as distinct from Randy from Boise. Commonly, a page on a topic here that is covered on Wikipedia will have a link at the top to the Wikipedia article, that is partly to satisfy WMF neutrality policy, which is content-enforced on Wikipedia. Individual pages here, under some conditions, need not be neutral. You are much more free here to create educational resources in the manner you think best. If you need help at any point with "neutrality" issues, ask me.
  • You may directly create resources in mainspace, and work on them there. If, however, you want to create something in your user space and work on it beforem moving it to mainspace, you may also do that. Pages in your user space have high freedom. Unless content is illegal (i.e., copyvio, for example), nobody will molest those pages, or, if they do, and persist, you can get custodial help. It almost never happens. In mainspace, *anyone may edit the page,* but under some conditions, particularly with subpages, which Wikiversity allows, you can more-or-less "own" the page. Again, this is not something that WMF editors are accustomed to, but it's actual practice. If, for example, I write an essay on Cold fusion, I may create that as a subpage, and with proper disclosures, I can ask that unfriendly edits not be made to that page, but that someone who, say, disagrees with it creates an alternate subpage, or comments on the attached Discussion, or whatever. We build educational resources here through inclusion, not exclusion. It's far more like a University environment than the encyclopedic environment of Wikipedia
  • As to extensive modification of an existing resource, if you want to do it en masse, rather than as individual edits, you may create a copy in your user space. That, after discussion, may eventually replace the mainspace page. You would generally propose the change on the mainspace Discussion page, and wait a decent time for comment. Your work on School pages may be like this. I have other comments I'll make in their own discussion section. --Abd (discusscontribs) 14:22, 15 November 2013 (UTC)
  • So in the future I create in mainspace. But in the meantime, I have a website I would like to move from User:Guy_Vandegrift to mainspace. --Guy vandegrift (discusscontribs) 14:53, 15 November 2013 (UTC)


I see you started new projects. Be careful. Remember! Need any help from me? --goldenburg (talk) 18:09, 10 November 2013 (UTC)

I think I am doing OK. Thanks for keeping tabs on me. All my pages are organized on My User Page so I hope I don't get tangled up again.--Guy vandegrift (discusscontribs) 18:19, 10 November 2013 (UTC)
I'm happy your OK. I think your style is good, to keep yourself organized :). Cheers! --goldenburg (talk) 18:36, 10 November 2013 (UTC)
I prefer you use a User book page :) --goldenburg (talk) 19:29, 10 November 2013 (UTC)


No Problem buddy! I'll always be here for you, Keep In Touch! --goldenburg (talk) 19:41, 10 November 2013 (UTC)

It depends on who your letting access to editing. --goldenburg (talk) 20:20, 10 November 2013 (UTC)
I just used another computer in the house, went to wikiversity, typed photoelectric effect, found it, went to discussion and wrote this. You don't even know it's me!
Now I am back at my computer. I never realized how public wikis are. Since anybody can write on any document, even our conversations with each other, I see no reason why students shouldn't be encouraged to use wikiversity. Now you know it's me because I will sign:--Guy vandegrift (discusscontribs) 20:34, 10 November 2013 (UTC)

Files Missing License InformationEdit

The file you uploaded, File:Stretched string quantum collision.png already exists at Commons as File:Snaky spring quantum collision.png. You can just refer to it by that name and it will automatically be included. The duplicate has been deleted.

In the future whenever you upload a file, be sure to include copyright and/or license information. See Wikiversity:License tags for more information. Thanks! -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 03:53, 13 November 2013 (UTC)

In the future, should I upload pictures to wikiversity or to commons?--Guy vandegrift (discusscontribs) 08:32, 13 November 2013 (UTC)

It is best to upload licensed files to Commons. The only files that should be hosted on Wikiversity are those that Commons will not accept. Practically speaking, that means Fair Use of copyrighted works. Thanks! -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 13:40, 13 November 2013 (UTC)

Wish to delete something I wroteEdit

I went to delete this and found a message at bottom telling me that it has been archived and that I should not delete it. So I just leave it alone? --Guy vandegrift (discusscontribs) 07:54, 13 November 2013 (UTC)

You're the only one who has edited that page. I suspect the archive notice came from wherever you copied the content from. You can remove the notice and delete the content if you wish. Note that in general I don't monitor other user's talk pages. If you have any additional questions, just ask on my talk page. Thanks! -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 13:44, 13 November 2013 (UTC)

Join me in the discussionEdit

This is very important, please join me in the discussion (User talk:Guy vandegrift/oldquantum(deleted) Mechanics Quiz) --goldenburg (talk) 21:13, 13 November 2013 (UTC)

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